It’s about time to get a little more gritty. Let me go ahead and make it clear that before anything else, I’m pretty aware that at least one of the people mentioned in the following writeup will contact me or lash out towards me in some other way. We all know how to set up Google Alerts. That’s completely fine and I’m only writing of what I know and have experienced thus far in my (somewhat amateur, 3-year) splurge in using the internet to make money. I’m not going to take the article down or censor or remove anything, despite whatever bribes or threats. My little blog isn’t going to mar your reputation in the least in comparison to what has already been done anyway, trust me!
Pace Lattin
This is practically a no-brainer. When you saw the article title, you knew it was coming.
Pace has received some very narrow criticism (maybe even hatred?) from the WickedFires. Just based on a few skimmed posts, Barman seems not to appreciate the guy very much and Ryan Eagle doesn’t seem to think the best of him. Shoemoney has come out and called the guy an “affiliate retard” of all things, which may or may not be in direct response to Pace’s multiple articles that target him in some pretty negative light. Even Brittany Bankston, who is currently as pregnant as she is hot, has went on a few little tirades about Pace on her Facebook.
Aside from receiving email after email after email with virtually no way to unsubscribe (and I say that as if it’s not annoying), I haven’t personally encountered any issues with the guy. He appears to come across to most people as an overall douchebag and I’ve read that he is quick to blackmail and threaten people in the industry. I don’t know the man but I do know his writing and blogs, and it’s pretty low quality (coming from another amateur, by the way). I don’t know if I understand why, but Mark Roth hired him to write for Inside Offervault (or is it OfferVault? Offer Vault?) and that’s where you can find the most of Lattin today, to my knowledge.
While I may have never had a run in with Mr. Lattin, he is an annoyance in emails and it seems like nearly everyone else has a bone to pick with him.
Dr. P/Dr. Com or whoever the hell the owner of MMD is or claims to be at this present point in time
This explains a lot, but that’s just a drop in the bucket of garbage, drama, and poor ethics surrounding MMD. It’s just another honeypot forum like BHW, but can you really expect anything else from this type of a forum? These forums are extremely shady in nature, why would the brains behind them be any different? HaRRo is no different (though much more skilled and accomplished in the field of blackhattery) at the core, but he has not been as narrowly pinpointed and scrutinized so openly as Dr. P.
His overall image is just very weird to me. He seems to strive to remain anonymous, which is pretty impossible online and doing so just makes you look suspicious. I’m not motivated enough to go on that cesspool of a forum and nab the guy’s avatar, but the way he portrays himself online is as follows:
Not particularly integral to my case here against him, but again, it makes the guy come off as just weird. Not someone you want to trust or rely on. It’s not him as a person so I don’t understand why you’d choose that type of an image as your personal brand online, it’s not a very good look.
He’s very well known for monopolizing and censoring the board to the extent where he ensures that the only ones getting exposure or making any pocket change are him, his shitty selection of very ignorant staff (Smeltzer, mainly), and his most loyal members who kiss a ridiculous amount of ass. I’m sure he’s making a disgusting amount of money from the traffic and work of his board. He’s known to run one or two affiliate networks, sell services and tools (that may have or may have not been stolen from his members), and he seems pretty close to a few people who are big in the industry. Doesn’t change the fact that it’s been proven that he is a scamming, scheming scumbag. The forum is a terrible and controlled atmosphere where those with no ties to the core of MMD are pushed away and everyone else is pulled in to break bread. Sounds great if you’re a mob boss, but you run a forum on the internet. It can only work for so much longer, hopefully.
In a grain of his defense, he was fairly respectful and decent towards me upon personally approaching him to ask why a particular network’s name was being slandered and just thrown dirt on around the forum. The issue was never handled as I lost interest in trying to defend a reputation on scummy spots like MMD, but he was at least able to communicate decently.
As of recent, he’s kicked off a Facebook group for his forum/network, coming at a time that seems as if the idea in itself was completely pulled from beneath EWA (whose group is extremely informative, successful, and active from what I’ve seen). I get annoying notifications and chat popups that reek of brilliant conversation such as:
The internet marketing mastermind featured in this particular conversation just so happens to be one of their highest esteemed members, also the one who created the topic trying to shit all over my network when traffic of horrible quality was not being held out on grounds of not yet having received a W9. That particular thread is likely still stickied on the forum, right below the ones that empower their own network(s) and partners. I expect to probably be forcefully removed from the group after this post is glanced over because, well, that’s just how MMD is used to handling resistance and opposition!
MMD is simply a nasty, nasty internet marketing forum where you can get banned for threatening to step on the profits of a moderator in fair game, you can have your software and other property stolen, and you’re expected to conform like a zombie to everything you’re told. Dr. P is the guy behind the forum, and that’s why he’s on my list.
Sean McAlister, Steven Lee Jones, Mike Filsaime, and the rest of the “I can make you $100,000 in 3 clicks!” guys
I don’t think a whole lot needs to be stated here. The guru image needs to die. You are scammers. You are liars. You steal money from people, specifically fellow affiliates. I receive a handful of your shitty email newsletters every day and I’m bewildered at how the three names I’ve listed in specific are probably millionaires because the mailings all seem very low quality.
What you guys do is just not good for the industry in my opinion. Props and respect to you guys for making a buttload of money, but negate that in consideration of how it’s done. You guys are true internet Warriors.
Tags: annoying, BHW, black hat, cheat, Dr. Com, Dr. P, fraud, HaRRo, honeypot, Mike Filsaime, MMD, Pace Lattin, scam, Sean McAlister, Smeltzer, Steven Lee Jones, thief, WickedFire
